AW: AW: AW: [time-nuts] Strange effect with C-Field change

Hubert v. Bonhorst hvonbonhorst at
Thu Mar 24 17:03:45 EST 2005

Hi John,
Try doubling what you have seen by disconnecting the antenna, and
substituting it by a resistor that makes aprox. the same current.

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Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [time-nuts] Strange effect with C-Field change

Hubert v. Bonhorst wrote:

>Hi John,
>I saw similar outliers running especially Motorola GPS receivers in the
>vicinity to mobile telephones. Shielding is not sufficient.  What I see in
>your data plot is a drifting oscillator until the receiver tries to find a
>new satellite configuration. (sudden jump upwards). After some time the
>receiver just changes phase. At the moment of relock (sudden jump
>the mobile or whatever source of distortion to the receiver is removed.
>Might be the receiving antenna was covered, by whatever material you can
>imagine. The 5061A did not loose phase during this period of time. Now its
>time to verify, why the receiver did not work. 
Hi Hubert --

That's a good hypothesis, but given how long this system (same receiver 
and antenna) has been running without ever encountering something like 
this makes me doubt it's a GPS anomaly, or at least a local one.  A long 
history has shown that this receiver/antenna very seldom loses lock, and 
the only strong transmitters nearby are in my hamshack, and were shut 
down while I was out of town.

Actually, right now I'm suspecting it might be a cabling problem (a 
possibly intermittent cable on the 1pps to the TIC that moved when the 
door to the 5061A control panel was opened), though it's surprising that 
something like that would result in more than a very transient phase 
shift -- I'd expect to see a transient in one data reading, not 
something that happened over hours.  I'll be doing some tests to see if 
I can reproduce the jump when the cable is moved.



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