[time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator
Arnold Tibus
Arnold.Tibus at gmx.de
Sun May 27 18:23:05 EDT 2007
Said,
I am sorry, I do not want to figth nor I want being involved in possible
fights, nor do I give instructions to cheat, in contrary, I did try
to help with my knowledge of european import laws and procedures
for normal goods, shipped privatly.
If necessary I can provide some documents concerned non commercial
international shipments.
I think that it is obvious for everybody, restricted items or confidential
documents cannot be shipped this way.
I was not aware of actual military or space-qualified and restricted items.
Btw. I am familiar with such procedures, I designed and tested
decades of years electronical systems and instrument-interfaces in
international projects like Spacelab, ERS1, ERS2, ENVISAT etc.
(worth up to ¬ 500E6) containing a big number of international hi-tech products...
I wish to Rick a good and wise hand for the distribution of his
electronic jewels, containing a big amount of spirit from a very successful
design engineer.
73,
Arnold, DK2WT
On Sun, 27 May 2007 16:32:22 EDT, SAIDJACK at aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 5/27/2007 07:55:58 Pacific Daylight Time,
>Arnold.Tibus at gmx.de writes:
>>Hi Said,
>>private international shipment and customs is not that problematic to my
>>knowledge and experience, at least between the USA and Europe.
>>On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:39:23 EDT, SAIDJACK at aol.com wrote:
>>
>Hi guys,
>
>ok, so there are always two approaches: you can (try to) get away with
>stuff, or follow the law. As long as they don't check closely you may get away
>with it... There are 100's of thousands of lawyers in the US trying to make
>sense of it all.
>
>There is no clear answer such as "well these are old, don't work anymore, I
>can get them for $1, thus there should be no problem in not declaring them
>according to the export control requirements."
>
>The CCL clearly talks about items such as "space qualified oscillators", or
>"stability better than 1E-011" etc. I am not trying to advise anyone if these
>units fall under the CCL or not - that's up to the exporter to determine. I
>don't know if these were ever space qualified for example (in which case it
>would deficiently be inadvisable not to declare them correctly).
>
>It could be as easy as finding the item categories on the CCL, finding out
>that Great Britain is not on the prohibited country list (most likely it won't
>be) - and entering the correct harmonized code into the export docs. Even an
>export novice can do this in about 15 - 20 minutes.
>
>In a job I had some time ago we were not even allowed to send any schematics
>or firmware outside of the country without export docs. They were very
>paranoid - because they got busted before!
>
>Does anyone remember the export of the PGP source code? They published a
>printed book and sent it to Europe because they were not allowed to export the
>soft version of the code!
>
>Then again will customs check? Probably not. But what if they do?
>
>bye,
>Said
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