[time-nuts] Strange reports of bocked messages to timenuts

Chuck Harris cfharris at erols.com
Sat May 17 06:56:42 EDT 2008


Magne Mæhre wrote:
> Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
>> I've been receiving some emails which claim to come from my ISP saying 
>> my messages to timenuts have been blocked due to spam.
>>
>> A typical subject line is "[time-nuts] ***Your message was blocked***" 
>> But I've not sent a message!
> 
> The problem is not with you.  All subscribers to the list received this.
> What causes the email is that conwin.ie use a lookup service to discard
> unwanted email (spam, scams, etc.).  This lookup service seems to check
> with rfc-ignorant.com  that has a listing over domains that are not
> compliant with the mail and dns related RFC's.   Unfortunately
> febo.com is listed here.
> 
> It seems febo.com (John's domain, and the host of the time-nuts
> mailing lists)  was listed at rfc-ignorant.org  2 1/2 years ago due
> to a problem with the DNS record for meow.febo.com.
> 
> 
> | Current Results for febo.com lookup
> | blacklist_zone	domain	status	Submitted	Added	Rejected	| Removed
> | bogusmx 	febo.com	Listed	Nov 11, 2005 22:35 EST	Nov 11, | 2005 
> 22:35 EST	Never	Never
> 
> ..and details:
> 
> | Return Code: 5
> | Description: ns1.febo.com reports that febo.com has an MX
> |  (meow.febo.com) which ns1.febo.com says is a CNAME (to febo.com)
> 
> 
> The issue they're complaining about is that febo.com has an MX record
> that points to meow.febo.com.  A host that is pointed to by an MX record
> must have an A record, and is not allowed to be a CNAME.  It turns out
> that meow.febo.com is a CNAME for febo.com, and thus in violation with
> the RFC.
> 
> 
> --Magne



What you say is true, but it is interesting to note that
David Kirkby's ISP (OneTel.net) is also blacklisted on rfc-ignorant.com


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onetel.net (Listed) [hildeb]


If you are the site administrator for the listed domain or netblock, and this has been corrected, please contact 
admin at rfc-ignorant.org to have this listing removed.

Submitted by: petri.koistinen at iki.fi (postfix at dsl-hkigw4m08.dial.inet.fi [80.222.60.8])

Evidence:

petri.koistinen at iki.fi (postfix at dsl-hkigw4m08.dial.inet.fi [80.222.60.8])




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