[time-nuts] are any time-nuts also random-nuts?

Robert Atkinson robert8rpi at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Dec 24 07:38:09 UTC 2009


Several years ago I built a series of noise generators for a local gentleman who was developing a lottery prediction program (yes I know) and wanted random numbers for testing. He certainly could tell a good noise generator but I don't think he won the lottery.
One true random number is the time of arrival of a radioactive particle or ray. Unfortunatly the recovery time (dead time) of most common detectors limits the rate of detection for this purpose (for radiation measurements they make corrections for this, the randomness helps). For reasonable granularityu you are limited to a few tens of counts per second.
I'm also a radiation nut see  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GeigerCounterEnthusiasts/
 
Robert G8RPI.

--- On Thu, 24/12/09, Brian Kirby <kilodelta4foxmike at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Brian Kirby <kilodelta4foxmike at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] are any time-nuts also random-nuts?
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts at febo.com>
Date: Thursday, 24 December, 2009, 7:01


I read an article one time about using a solar cell to generate random 
noise.

Scott Burris wrote:
> I saw this USB connected hourglass for producing random numbers:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/%7Ehourglass/
>
> Anyone pursuing perfect randomness in the same way this group pursues
> time and frequency?  Maybe cryptologists.    
>
> I'm tempted to build an ethernet connected variant of this.  Then of course
> we need a distribution mechanism.  How about RNDP, the Random Number
> Distribution Protocol?  A la NTP, clients could select for the server with the
> most randomness :-)
>
> Scott
>
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