[time-nuts] Off Topic question... & Apology

[Steve Rooke]

Dear Time-Nutters

I wish to humbly apologize to the over 749 subscribers to this list
for my stupid rantings. I had a very bad day and this had pushed me
into a manic state, which is a problem for someone with bipolar.
Rest-assured, it will be a couple of weeks or so before I can dig
myself out of the down state I have now fallen into, so your unlikely
to hear from me. OK, stop the cheering now :)

I have nothing against the American people at all, I have family and
friends there, even though I could have stuck my boot firmly up the
backside of one famous US personage Yesterday, but that was only part
of my stress.

73, Steve

2009/1/21 John Ackermann N8UR <jra at febo.com>:
> Folks, this started out as an off-topic question about getting
> inoculations, and has turned into something even more off-topic and less
> informative.
>
> Time-nuts now has over 750 subscribers who joined the list because they
> are interested in a high signal-to-noise ratio discussion of precise
> time and frequency measurement.  Let's respect their time and bandwidth
> by limiting discussions to things within the list's charter.
>
> Specifically, let's close off this discussion of who's stereotyping whom
> before it degenerates further.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
> YrSysAdmin
> ----
>
> John Day wrote:
>> At 02:17 AM 1/20/2009, you wrote:
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Well, I've heard the same sort of stereotypical comments about the
>>> Brits so many times I am fed up with them too. Besides which of those
>>> comments can you say does not have an air of truth about them for
>>> someone coming from England, or may other places in the World for that
>>> matter.
>>>
>>> You've turned a simple friendly poke at the US system into an all out
>>> attack on every US citizen. I read an article the other day about the
>>> British "hacker" who "broke into" the military systems over there
>>> looking for UFO data. The comments were that he should be given 70
>>> years inside, executed, and a whole lot of stuff about how this guy
>>> was such a terrible criminal. No one talked about how the US military
>>> had connected a system with secret classified data onto the Net with
>>> no admin password. But apparently all the blame was on him. If you
>>> leave your car with the door open and the keys in the ignition
>>> wouldn't you expect to have it pinched.
>>>
>>> And whats this stuff about the land of the free, you guys have more
>>> legislation on yourselves and on other countries people than many
>>> other countries. I sat and watched all the discussion about shooting
>>> guns at New Year and the chances of people getting killed. They get
>>> killed anyway because it is so easy to get guns over there. Everybody
>>> gets the chance to be a crim. Our police don't carry guns routinely
>>> and we don't have a gun problem. Sure some idiots get hold of them,
>>> and some innocent people get hurt or killed, but it's a major event in
>>> this country when that happens, not just the way of life it is for you
>>> guys.
>>>
>>> So please don't come back at me all innocent like and hurt.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Steve
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> What you need to remember is that some Americans have a superiority
>> complex - there is nothing of worth or value from anywhere else. We
>> shouldn't take this to heart, this is the way they are educated. From
>> a very early age Americans are taught that the US is the greatest
>> country in the world. The American military is invincible, the
>> American education system excels and everybody in the world wants to
>> live in the US so we need to keep them out.
>>
>> Parts of this are true, the US is a great country. But no more so
>> than Britain, Canada, Australia, Germany or just about any other
>> country. Americans are proud of their country, but often
>> unjustifiably so because their media and education system is severely
>> xenophobic.
>>
>> The American military isn't bad, but invincible? Hardly.
>>
>> The US does have some good universities, but it doesn't mean any
>> means have a caveat on good education. Illiteracy rates in the US are
>> high for a first world nation.
>>
>> But to understand the attitude you need to know a lot about the US.
>> Since 1973 I have lived in the US on several occasions. I have worked
>> for US corporations and the US government. I have also had to live in
>> a country where the rest of the world barely exists for the media.
>> Where major government figures at the Federal and State level are
>> almost totally ignorant of even their closest neighbour.
>>
>> So these days I live in a community of malcontents! Many of my
>> friends here in Canada are Americans who have chosen not to live in
>> the US for a variety of reasons. As an immigrant to this country I
>> have spoken to many people to try and figure out how Canadians define
>> themselves. The one core theme I detect is "we are not Americans".
>> Having lived in the US I am happy not to live there now. But don't be
>> discouraged, the sort of reaction you have seen here is fairly
>> typical. On the whole Americans are very sensitive about any
>> perceived criticism of their country and just don't seem to have a
>> handle on anyone else's sense of humour.
>>
>> John
>> (An Australian who has lived in too many places to recall).
>>
>>
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