[time-nuts] From GPS World - Lightsquared has been given the goahead

paul swed paulswedb at gmail.com
Wed Feb 2 18:02:10 UTC 2011


True enough there will be three systems heck many channels also.
But that reality actually means my magical HP 3801 may not work or could
become unreliable at best.
So how do we hack those new receivers for time-nuts purposes for $29?
Regards
Paul

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Eric Garner <garnere at gmail.com> wrote:

> Since this issue is a concern, write the FCC oversight committees:
>
>
> House of Representatives:
>
>
> http://democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/index.php?q=subcommittee/subcommittee-on-oversight-and-investigations-0
>
> (note: the "democrats" part of the URL is because the house.gov site
> is broken into majority and minority sites and the current house
> majority has apparently not gotten their ducks in a row yet)
>
> Senate:
>
> http://commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=CommunicationsTechnologyandtheInternet
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Don Latham <djl at montana.com> wrote:
> > sooooo, once the safety of life equipment is in place, with controlled
> > purchase of receivers no doubt, the consumer signals can be shut off at
> > will. And we're SOL. Neat.
> > cynical Don
> >
> > Mark Spencer
> >> That's quite possible, another option is that aviation receivers may err
> >> on the
> >> side of caution and not use GPS signals that are considered to be
> degraded
> >> beyond a certain level.   This is just speculation on my part.
> >>
> >> As other posters have pointed it seems a bit ironic that shortly after
> >> shutting
> >> down Loran in the US this issue emerges, although I seem to recall there
> >> is a
> >> move towards a new GPS frequency band for safety of life applications
> (the
> >> L5
> >> Signal IIRC ?)
> >>
> >> Your comment about the improvements in signal processing is a good one
> and
> >> pondering this issue a bit more I wonder how much advancement has
> occurred
> >> in
> >> timing receivers over the years versus consumer devices which likely
> have
> >> a
> >> shorter product cycle.   This may lead to more issues in timing
> >> applications.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: jimlux <jimlux at earthlink.net>
> >> To: time-nuts at febo.com
> >> Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 6:45:29 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From GPS World - Lightsquared has been given
> the
> >> goahead
> >>
> >>
> >> what was interesting is that the jamming/fail to get fix was at a closer
> >> distance for the consumer receiver than for the FAA approved receiver
> >> for aircraft.  Maybe it's better signal processing in the (presumably
> >> newer) consumer receiver.
> >>
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