[time-nuts] The future of UTC

Rob Kimberley rk at timing-consultants.com
Sat Jul 16 13:59:17 UTC 2011


Daylight savings seems to be a bit archaic especially with modern flexible
working practices. Why not fit the working day around the clock & seasons,
rather than try to correct things twice a year?

Rob Kimberley

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Spencer
Sent: 15 July 2011 5:51 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC

Sorry for the prior  email with no text.

If the world could agree on the dates when DST adjustments are applied (if
individual countries, states etc elect to make DST adjustments) and make any
needed leap second adjustments at the same time that would be a positive
step IMHO.



----- Original Message ----
From: Jose Camara <camaraq1 at quantacorp.com>
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
<time-nuts at febo.com>
Sent: Fri, July 15, 2011 9:18:03 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC

I think before adding to the fire of UTC1, UTC7 etc. why not just abolish
this silliness called Daylight Savings Time?  If there is any benefit to it,
just change business operating hours instead. In summer you work 10 to 6
instead of 9 to 5 and we don't have to go around the house, car, etc.
changing clocks. And Congress doesn't have to change the dates the VCRs were
programmed to do automatically, leaving time for them to take care of
something more important...

I used to have pet tortoises that would always ignore DST, looking for their
food one hour earlier...


-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Rooke
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:24 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC

On 16 July 2011 03:14, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
> In message
<CACTjVNynr5Vhrj=E+gFUnGeBPa_u8__26BhjaMK2NV6UXGi2Sg at mail.gmail.com>
> , Steve Rooke writes:
>
>>> Nope, once they have scheduled a leap-second, it happens.
>>
>>And if it's not needed?
>
> It is needed, otherwise they would not have scheduled it.

So, your saying they will predict all the wobbling, drift, internal earth
changes, etc and do this with any accuracy 20 years in advance, when we have
already seen significant variations in this.

> If they predict wrong all that happens is that DUT1 wanders a bit more 
> around and they will have to catch up with it over the next couple of 
> decades.

Given that straight-jacket, I suggest they schedule one every year then they
can add and subtract them willy nilly. Yes, New Years Day, worldwide let's
change the clock regardless. It would make it much more fun for all of us to
watch what happens. Yes, I'm game for that, great idea.

Cheers,
Steve

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The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once.
- Einstein

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