[time-nuts] The future of UTC

Fri Jul 22 23:39:45 UTC 2011

Ha, you may well ask.  The reason to hate DST is given to us in the 
southern parts of Australia, by our Queensland cousins:

The problems with DST is :

1. The Cows get very confused and the farmers have problems milking them.
2. The chickens don't know anymore when to lay the eggs. it is rumoured, 
that the shape of the eggs may suffer. However,
this has not been proven, since Queensland never had DST.
and 3.  most importantly, The extra daylight fades the curtains more, 
and as every housewife will tell you:" That will never do"

On 22/07/2011 17:19, Jim Palfreyman wrote:
> Mr HeathKid,
>
> What is your reason for "hating dst". The changeover is a pain - but after
> that, what is the problem?
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 22 July 2011 14:23, Heathkid<heathkid at heathkid.com>  wrote:
>
>> I live at 39° 57' 46" N and I absolutely HATE DST!  Yes, Indiana... we
>> haven't had DST for too long.  It's bad and I hope some day we go back to
>> not having it.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Kimberley"<
>> rk at timing-consultants.com>
>> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'"<
>> time-nuts at febo.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:57 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC
>>
>>
>>   My earlier reply about flexible working practices still holds. Why not
>>> just
>>> move with the seasons. Before clocks, I'm sure that's what we did - we got
>>> up when it was light, and went to bed when it was dark. The bit in between
>>> just happens to be elastic...
>>>
>>> I live at 53 degrees North in the UK by the way.
>>>
>>> Rob K
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@**febo.com<time-nuts-bounces at febo.com>]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Jim Palfreyman
>>> Sent: 19 July 2011 1:58 PM
>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC
>>>
>>> Far out. I've just read so many logical fallacies and government
>>> conspiracies I'm embarrassed for this high quality list. Let's inject some
>>> facts here.
>>>
>>> I live at 43 degrees south. At the winter solstice (June 21) the sun rises
>>> at 7:41 and sets at 16:43.
>>>
>>> At the summer solstice (December 21) the sun rises (no DST) at 04:28 and
>>> sets at 19:49.
>>>
>>> Sunrise at 04:28 is ridiculous. Including twilight it starts getting light
>>> at 3:30. Switch to DST and sunrise moves to 05:28 and sets at 20:49. Much
>>> more reasonable. Nice summer evenings too.
>>>
>>> We have DST for 6 months of the year and wouldn't swap it for anything.
>>>
>>> I understand it's different the closer to the equator you are, but for mid
>>> latitudes it really works.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 19 July 2011, Thomas A Frank<ka2cdk at cox.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> BLOCK: This may be kind of an urban legend, but I thought I had heard
>>>>> that one of the backers behind extending Daylight Saving Time into the
>>> beginning of November was the candy industry, and it all had to do with
>>> Halloween.
>>>
>>>>>> Mr. DOWNING: This is no kind of legend. This is the truth. For 25
>>>>>> years,
>>>>>>
>>>>> candy-makers have wanted to get trick-or-treat covered by Daylight
>>> Saving,
>>> figuring that if children have an extra hour of daylight, they'll collect
>>> more candy. In fact, they went so far during the 1985 hearings on Daylight
>>> Saving as to put candy pumpkins on the seat of every senator, hoping to
>>> win
>>> a little favor.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would say it backfired.
>>>>
>>>> At least here in Rhode Island, the extra daylight resulted in the
>>>>
>>> compression of the trick or treating schedule, since all the little
>>> goblins
>>> and ghouls wanted to go out after dark (to better scare the homeowners and
>>> enjoy their glow in the dark costumes), but they also were expected home
>>> by
>>> 8pm (local).
>>>
>>>> Net result is less candy given out.
>>>>
>>>> At least that has been my experience.
>>>>
>>>> Proving you shouldn't tamper with time. Measure yes, tamper, no. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Tom Frank, KA2CDK
>>>>
>>>>
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