[time-nuts] Squaring Tbolt 10Mhz output

Greg Broburg semiflex at comcast.net
Thu Mar 24 21:20:02 UTC 2011


what is the output drive circuit and what is the drive
level / source impedance from the Thunderbolt?

Greg




On 3/24/2011 2:10 PM, Hal Murray wrote:
>> I'm not sure everything can handle the 10Mhz signal.
> Bingo.
>
> LM339 (National data sheet)
>    Response time: 	0.5 us
>
> CD4049B/CD405B (from TI data sheet)
>    Rise time is 80 ns
>    Fall time is 30 ns
> Those are typicals at 5 V with a 5V input signal.
>
>
> The LM399 says "low power" which usually means low speed.
>
> I occasionally go "oops" when I sanity check the speed on a circuit I'm about
> to build using HC/LS parts.  They aren't very fast, and the old 4000 logic is
> even slower.
>
> 10 MHz is about the corner for HC.  I use the HC163 (4 bit binary counter) as
> an example.  It has a max clock frequency of 25 MHz, so you think "no
> problems" at 10 MHz.  But the setup times are 30-40 ns and the clock-out are
> 40-50 ns so doing anything interesting at 10 MHz gets tight.
>
>
>




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