[time-nuts] ebay warning

Bob Camp lists at rtty.us
Tue Feb 21 22:17:21 UTC 2012


Hi

I think it's safe to say that *none* of the FE's now on the market are truly
new. Anybody who is claiming them as such is not telling the truth. Some may
be less used than others, I doubt any of these guys know which they are..

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
Behalf Of EWKehren at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:14 PM
To: time-nuts at febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

These guys do not know what they sell. This was a marketing ploy, I did  
catch him once before and made him change his listing. All a sudden he had 
used  and new. Checked with him, claimed he ha d gotten some new ones bought

one,  looked very used took the back off, strong discoloration a give away
but 
 frequency way down a sign off long operating time, because FE ships them 
as  close as possible and claim 5 E-11. Those of you that paid the extra for

a NEW  got ripped off.
Bert Kehren
 
 
In a message dated 2/21/2012 1:37:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
albertson.chris at gmail.com writes:

On Tue,  Feb 21, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bob Camp <lists at rtty.us> wrote:
>  Hi
>
> I just got a couple of FE's in from the same guy. They all  lock up ok, no
> idea about how they age. One interesting thing  though:
>
> All the other FE's I have seen came attached to PC  boards. The ones I 
just
> got were taken off the board before shipping.  All other FE's I've seen 
came
> in pretty close to 10 MHz on the high  end of the VCXO sweep. The latest
> batch came in *much* higher (like 50  to 70 Hz high). I'm wondering if 
they
> were taken off the PC board to  adjust the VCXO so they would lock.

That makes sense.  If you have  many FE5680s, yu test them and sell the
good ones first as you repair the  failed units.

On another list people were asking if they should buy  a
"reconditioned" product from Apple.   (Apple offers the same 1  year
warranty.)  The majority opinion is that the "reconditioned"  units
have a better record because they were bench checked here is the  USA
and have better quality assurance testing than the new units get  in
China.

This may be true of the re-worked FE5680s too.    A reworked unit might
have been tested for 30 minutes or so while the  others only got
powered up briefly.

We don't really know the level  of testing but over all these seem to
be reputable sellers who are  responsive to problems.      I do avoid
sellers who claim  their stuff is "new" when it can't be new.  Either
their understanding  of the English word "new" is poor or they are
misrepresenting the  product.  Either way there are others who don't
misuse the word that I  can buy from.


Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach,  California

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