[time-nuts] WWVB and Free Democracies Survival

paul swed paulswedb at gmail.com
Sun Jul 15 01:55:56 UTC 2012


Perry you mean like the 10' X 10' loop I put up?
It has about 800 ft of wire.
Brang the daytime signal fro 30 uv to an easy 60 +.
Compared to a 2.5 ft loop.
Yes higher power would be good.
Regards
paul

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Perry Sandeen <sandeenpa at yahoo.com> wrote:

> GM List,
>
> What has not been mentioned so far is national security needs of the
> democratic nations of the world for uninterrupted accurate time/frequency
> information that is not subject to interference or destruction by those
> nations diametrically opposed to personal freedom.
>
> The United States GPS system is an unparalleled success providing
> inexpensive time and frequency standards worldwide and it is relied on for
> innumerable critical tasks.
>
> But it requires using satellites.   They are subject to destruction or
> degradation from the ground over the sovereign territory by those rouge
> states that would be so inclined.  The ability to destroy a satellite from
> the earth has already ben demonstrated by one nation.  There are numerous
> reports of shall we say *Malicious Tinkering* on other satellites.
>
> Setting aside the enormous expense, technical difficulties such as the
> need for sophisticated and extremely limited amount of rocket launches
> available make the system unsustainable to GPS satellites continued
> destruction or degradation from a land based source.
>
> The need for a strong viable redundancy is totally unfathomed upon those
> in the current applicable leadership of the US government.  One proof of
> this was the shutting down of Loran C to save $35 M a year in a spending
> amount of several trillion dollars a year.
>
> But Loran C gave us the best and cheapest redundant alternative to GPS and
> perhaps might be revived.
>
> A viable WWVB signal, while a very poor third choice, provides an
> alternate backup for GPS and in a strange way that could provide protection
> at least for the USA GPS system.  Here’s why.  It still is very difficult
> and expensive to damage/destroy satellites.   That there are viable
> alternatives based on unassailable sovereign territory may discourage the
> rogue states from making such an effort.
>
> WWVB has a historically transmitted power of 50KW. This is the maximum AM
> broadcast band signal transmission power allowed in the USA IIRC for about
> 75 years.  NIST sates the WWVB antennas having efficiencies of around 57
> per cent.
>
> Improved transmitting tube technology would easily allow more output
> power.  For example Riydah, Saudi Arabia transmits 2 MW on 1201 KHz and is
> heard often in North America with a R-390A receiver.
>
> So a massive increase from 50KW to say for example to 500KW and or the
> relocation of the transmitter and antennas to a more geographical central
> U.S. state location (such as Iowa) could extend the 100 micro-volt per
> meter signal level radiation pattern over the entire western hemisphere and
> provide a high enough micro-volt per meter signal that receivers could
> phase lock on the signal in North America and would not be subject to
> problems of diurnal shift or the new modulation scheme.
>
> Baring an improved WWVB signal strength us time nuts may be forced to
> install 20 to 30 ft. loop antennas when the new system is finalized for an
> adequate signal.
>
> Regards,
>
> Perry Sandeen
>
>
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