[time-nuts] Why are 1PPS signals so skinny?

[Don Latham]

Came to this thread late. Could it be thin because the end output of
even a synchronous  dividing chain needs to be resynced to the beginning
to maintain phase?
Don


shalimr9 at gmail.com
> The Thunderbolt's output impedance is much less than 10 ohms. However,
> it is only necessary to filter the end of the line for a clean pulse.
>
> See http://www.ko4bb.com/Test_Equipment/CoaxCableMatching.php
>
> I used the Thunderbolt's PPS output as a source in those measurements.
>
> Didier KO4BB
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Said Jackson <saidjack at aol.com>
> Sender: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 19:02:51
> To: Tom Van Baak<tvb at leapsecond.com>; Discussion of precise time and
> frequency measurement<time-nuts at febo.com>
> Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> 	<time-nuts at febo.com>
> Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency
> measurement<time-nuts at febo.com>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why are 1PPS signals so skinny?
>
> These types of pulses should be routed as open-ended source-terminated
> reflected wave switched transmission lines. Power will only flow for
> nanoseconds as the pulse travels over the line. There won't be a drop of
> 50% of the voltage at the target and no large power spikes in the unit
> or requirements for proper impedance matching at the receiver side.
>
> Some units like the thunderbolt look quite bad driving a 50 ohms
> transmission line, others that are designed with proper 50 ohms series
> impedance create a sharp nice signal.
>
> Bye,
> Said
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 14, 2012, at 17:21, "Tom Van Baak" <tvb at LeapSecond.com> wrote:
>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I too once preferred 50% duty cycle 1 Hz signals because they seemed
>> more "natural". But one day during an experiment where I was comparing
>> a large set of clocks I noticed my lab's digital AC power meter was
>> jumping by tens of watts every second.
>>
>> When a dozen DUT generate 1PPS along with as many REF pulses (via
>> cascaded pulse distribution amps) and then these all go to both inputs
>> of a TIC and there's also LED's on both TIC channels as well as the
>> dist amps, the net load is enormous. The last thing you want in a
>> precision timing lab is to load your AC line down exactly once a
>> second. Remember 5V into 50R is 0.1 Amps. That was a modest amount of
>> current in the 1950's, but massive overkill today.
>>
>> So that's why I now prefer short (e.g., 1 ms or 10 us) pulses.
>>
>> /tvb
>>
>>
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