[time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises on eBay

[David Kirkby]

On 10 September 2012 23:55, Tom Knox <actast at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave;

Hi Tom,

> I would also recommend opening a" Not As Described" through eBay.

I have done.

> Most shippers require a minimum of three inches padding for any claim. Even a rock requires three inches so I am sure a PayPal or ebay dispute will force the seller to make good.

I wish I had your confidence! I can't find anything in their rules
that cover damage caused by inadequate shipping. It seems "buyer
protection" extends to the seller having to pay the original shipping
cost, but not the cost to the buyer of shipping it back. This seems
most unfair to me. It's not a big deal on small light items, but
shipping heavy items internationally is not cheap.

I've also had to pay inport duties and VAT on this, which comes to a
US equivalent of around $220. I doubt I will be able to recover that.

> I that fails many of the part on that generation HPitem are universal and should be easy to locate.

I have offered to accept a partial refund and try to fix it myself,
but he does not want that.

> Good Luck;

Thank you. I might need it.

> Thomas Knox

Cheers Thomas,

Dave, G8WRB.
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:46:01 +0100
>> From: david.kirkby at onetel.net
>> To: time-nuts at febo.com
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises on eBay
>>
>> On 10 September 2012 23:24, Tom Knox <actast at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I had someone ship me a calibrator several years ago and he assured me he was a great packer and had a box that fit it perfectly. He was right the box fit perfectly, no padding required. Is the unit repairable? What parts are required?
>> > Good Luck
>> > Thomas Knox
>>
>>
>> It's annoying. I don't know how big/heavy your calibrator was. But I
>> think in future I will discuss with sellers how they intend to ship
>> high value items heavy items.
>>
>> Lots of HP test equipment, which I'm sure many time-nuts own, is quite
>> heavy. Shiping that requires some skill in packing it. This is not
>> something I have given much thought to in the past, but I sure will in
>> future.
>>
>> Not that I expect UPS would pay out on this anyway, but the seller
>> undervalued the goods to $1000, which no doubt reduced the shipping
>> charge, but means it would be impossible to make a claim.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:16:55 +0100
>> >> From: david.kirkby at onetel.net
>> >> To: time-nuts at febo.com
>> >> Subject: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises on   eBay
>> >>
>> >> I hope the list admin does not mind this email, but I think it will be
>> >> useful to any time nut buying test equipment from eBay.
>> >>
>> >> orzel-enterprises sells electronic test equipment on eBay. I would
>> >> advise anyone to think twice before purchasing from him. This is how
>> >> he shipped a vector network analyzer and S-parameter test set which I
>> >> won on an auction for $2750. It was shipped from the USA to the UK.
>> >>
>> >> http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/damaged-VNA-by-inadequate-packaging/badly-shipped-8753A-and-85046A.jpg
>> >>
>> >> Note the box is far too small, and so obviously both units suffered damage.
>> >>
>> >> He takes no reponsibility for this, and originally expected me to ship
>> >> it back at my expense, and still pay the shipping charges from the
>> >> USA. So I'd pay for two international shipments, as well as customs
>> >> duties. After I pointed out Paypal would expect him to pay the
>> >> shipping to me, he has agreed to refund the USA -> UK shipping
>> >> charges,  but he still expects me to pay the UK -> USA shipping costs.
>> >> I object to this, since it was his total stupidity the thing not
>> >> damaged. I don't see why I should pay for someone elses stupidity.
>> >>
>> >> Dave.
>> >>
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