[time-nuts] Logging the grid frequency....

[John]

All,

If you want a reason for logging the mains frequency, see the following 
link to a news item which appeared on a BBC news program a few weeks ago 
here in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20629671

There was also a full program about it which you can listen to at the 
following link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01p7bxw

John G3UUT

On 23/02/2013 08:15, Tom Van Baak wrote:
>> So it is not correct to measure one point to a gnat's nose
>> hair and call it "the grid frequency."
> Bill,
>
> Yes, and this is true for any source of frequency. That's why when we specify stability the averaging interval is critical; the x-axis of a log-log ADEV plot.
>
> One might look at every cycle to measure stuff like jitter, not so much to measure frequency over a tau of 0.016 seconds. The nice thing about ADEV is that a single plot can convey frequency stability for all intervals from as short as a single cycle to as long as days or months or more. Now with a 10 MHz standard we don't normally start an ADEV plot at a single (100 ns) cycle. But for 60 Hz it's perfectly natural to do so.
>
> A histogram of period is another way to show variations in cycle time. This gives more information than a single ADEV point. But to show variations as a function of averaging time, a whole set of separate histograms, or overlaid histograms, are required.
>
>> It might be more accurate to put a flywheel on a synchronous
>> motor and measure its speed, because the time constant of that
>> system is a whole lot closer to that of the real grid frequency.
> I too was suspicious of digital or PLL or filtered methods of monitoring 60 Hz phase. To validate the digital methods I compared against an old synchronous wall clock. In the following animated GIF, a photo was taken exactly every 900 seconds (15 minutes):
>      http://leapsecond.com/pages/tec/mains-clock-ani.gif
>
> It turns out the zero-crossing microprocessor digital time-stamping method exactly agreed with the old mechanical synchronous motor/inertia method. Satisfied with this result, I do all my mains phase/frequency logging using the digital time-stamp method (picPET).
>
> /tvb
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