[time-nuts] "Better" gps antennas than a Symmetricom 58532A

lists at lazygranch.com lists at lazygranch.com
Thu Jan 24 00:45:43 EST 2013


I doubt the impedance would be designed so nobody gets a right match. Anyway, the geometric mean, which is how you would do such a compromise is 61.24 ohms.


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From: Jim Lux <jimlux at earthlink.net>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:50:00 
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] "Better" gps antennas than a Symmetricom 58532A

On 1/23/13 7:26 AM, lists at lazygranch.com wrote:
> For a single frequency use like GPS, the impedance should be close to the target. It is true for scanners and such, 50 ohms is quite nominal. (This notion of DC to daylight and maintaining 50 ohms is fantasy. ) But for a GPS, you know exactly the application.
>

You assume that the antenna designer actually tried to hit a particular 
Z.  They may have been going for "about 60 ohms" which would be about 
1.2:1 for both 50 and 75 ohms.  Or, they were more worried about 
optimizing the pattern or axial ratio, and the Z could be "good enough".

I've got a SWR plot from a passive L1/L2 antenna here (specified as 
better than 1.5:1) and it varies somewhat randomly with no apparent 
pattern between 1.5:1 and 1.1:1, and is about 1.3:1 at L1.  Another 
antenna (same mfr, same model, slightly different installation and 
cable) ripples between 1.45:1 and 1.05:1, mostly oscillating around 
1.2:1. At L1 it's about 1.1:1

It meets the spec everywhere.

> The loading could effect the antenna pattern if it were not for the preamp.

It is unlikely that the impedance presented at the feedpoint of an 
single feed antenna will change the pattern, particularly for something 
low gain like a GPS. That is, there's no physical way it "could" affect 
it.  The pattern is determined by the currents distributed around the 
physical antenna, and they have a fixed (complex) ratio to the current 
at the feedpoint. all an impedance change would do is change that 
current, but then everything changes together and the pattern is unchanged.



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