[time-nuts] PLL Dead Zone was Have 10 MHz need 19.2 MHz

M. Simon msimon6808 at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 15 10:46:42 EDT 2013


The NXP 9046 is speced for zero dead zone. 

http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/74HCT9046A.pdf

"No dead zone of PC2" - from the above spec sheet

PC2 is the phase detector you will probably use 

"center frequency up to 17 MHz (typical) at VCC= 5.5 V"

That tells you that 19.2 MHz may be good for a hobby project. However, that freq is not viable for mfg. A 19.2MHz TCVCXO is better and will have much less phase noise. 

This is a nice one if you can use a .8v p-p clipped sine wave:

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Crystek-Corporation/CVT25-19200/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMt8oz%2fHeiymALNF%2fwgEmlnuNTvPe8JbWvQ%3d

This oscillator has a 3.3V out:

http://www.kds.info/html/products/products_catalog/ProductView_en.php?Name=DSA222MAB%20%28VC-TCXO%20Module%29&Model=06&Use=1

You will want the MAB suffix. I got samples from DSA - they are difficult unless you are a high volume user. Or write a column for a major magazine and promise them lots of copy.

Simon

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:38:30 -0400
From: "Charles P. Steinmetz" <charles_steinmetz at lavabit.com>
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Have 10 MHz need 19.2 MHz
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I received this all jumbled up in one long line without any sort of 
formatting, because the sender's mail client does not use 
standardized structure -- so I don't know who wrote what:

>A 74HC4046 can reach 19.2 MHz

Be very careful about specs like that and be sure to read all the 
fine print.  What can run at that speed?  The VCO?  The phase 
comparator (and which one -- the one you want to use?)?  Also, note 
that the PC dead zone gets to be a larger and larger percentage of a 
cycle as the frequency increases, so the control gets less and less 
precise.  The 74HCT9046 may be a better choice (no dead zone), but 
you may need to select parts to run them at 19+ MHz.  No worries, 
there are hundreds of fast PLLs out there, but most are more 
complicated to apply than the 4046/9046.

>Well some parts whose use is so pervasive, for example, the 2N3904 
>and 2N3906 transistor, they will be around *forever* and reasonably 
>priced.  I believe the MC or LM 1496 falls in this category.

Ten years ago I thought the same about the 2N2222, 2N2907, 2N5179, 
2N5109, 2N5320 and 5322, and on, and on, and on, and on....  But they 
are all long gone as primary parts.  So will be the 1496 before 
long.  Of course, as long as 2N3904s are available, you can always 
build your own 1496 if you're willing to do a bit of selection.

BTW, I see that at least some versions of the ON 1496 are already EOL.

Best regards,

Charles



 



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