[time-nuts] looking for SMT oscillator SC cut, with no oven

Alex Pummer alex at pcscons.com
Sat Aug 29 22:19:38 EDT 2015


Hi Bob,

go to your local city library get membership[ here in California it is 
free] , and ask them to get from the university  library, it will take 
some  time than they cal you the your stuff is there, you could have it 
for  four weeks if you need you could extend it for an other four weeks,
the engineering library of the university of Berkeley is open to 
everybody, you can not take it out without additional formality, but you 
could read, copy, scan it there,
I assume that works similarly in your state/ city/ university library,
If you have a specific title, let me know, it will not happen right 
away, since I am working on five projects [for clients] also I am [life] 
member of the IEEE, where is not everything free any more, but people 
are reasonable
73
KJ6UHN
Alex
  On 8/29/2015 9:52 AM, Bob Camp wrote:
> Hi
>
>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Attila Kinali <attila at kinali.ch> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:29:21 -0400
>> Bob Camp <kb8tq at n1k.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> there's some C code out there that models AT (and also other cuts).. I'll
>>> see if I can find it. I found it in a PhD dissertation on designing
>>> temperature compensation neworks, as I recall.
>>> The formulas and everything *are* out there. Last time I used them I pulled
>>> them out of IEEE papers. Since I don’t have
>>> access to them at home, (and suspect most of us are in that boat) - citing
>>> one didn’t seem like a useful thing to do. There
>>> are a bunch of fiddly little things about the constants used that vary a bit
>>> from paper to paper. Since those variations are
>>> almost all in the “past what you can measure” range for the raw quarts, it’s
>>> not real easy to work out who is right and who is wrong.
>> There are at least 4 or 5 people on this mailinglist who have access to IEEE
>> that i know about. One can get access to IEEE (springer and others) by using
>> the library of a nearby technical university, or one that has a strong
>> engineering department.
> …… or by begging … :)
>
> The nearest university that has a reasonable library is about a 6 hour round
> trip drive. That by its self is not the main problem.
>
> I’m not going to blend in as a “typical looking student” if I start wandering
> around poking at things. I’ve already have empirical evidence that there is about a
> 90% chance of getting asked “may I see your ID?” as I walk through the door. Fortunately
> that was back a bit when I *did* have an ID. Yes I could sign up for another course
> and remedy that situation. Yes there may be other universities with more open policies.
> I have not found one around here.
>
> Bob
>
>> Alternatively, one can always send a mail to the author. Most are quite
>> glad to hand out their papers.
>>
>> Of course, asking is always a good idea, no matter whom ;-)
>>
>>
>> 			Attila Kinali
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> I will face my metastability.
>> I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
>> And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
>> Where the metastability has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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