[time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

billriches bill.riches at verizon.net
Wed Jul 15 20:47:16 EDT 2015


No sigs yet - I am friends with the tech at Wildwood and also have a monitor (with squelch) on the fx.  Will advise list when they fire up.

73,

Bill, WA2DVU
Cape May, NJ - Just a few miles away from Wildwood.

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From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On Behalf Of David McGaw
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:32 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

The word is that eLoran IS on in the US from Wildwood as of June 19.  
Has anyone noticed the signal?

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/loran-navigation-signal-back-on-and-better-than-before/article_21d19298-16d0-11e5-9a69-1343edc2e90b.html

There is also a bill in the US House to reinstate Loran-C as eLoran.

David N1HAC


On 7/14/15 6:49 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
> Hi
>
> Not to be to much of a downer here but …..
>
> Loran for timing and an “Eastern WWVB” are two projects that seem to 
> each have a life of their own. They seem to come up on some sort of cycle related to sun spots.
> Both have zero (or possibly less than that) percent mind share among 
> those who would need to implement them into systems. Since there is 
> major cost on the systems end, it would take “mandatory use” 
> legislation to get them designed in. Without those design in’s, 
> *having* a backup system is pretty useless. You are talking about billions of dollars and years of effort to hook them up ….
>
> If you are talking about “infinite budget” military systems, some of 
> that may happen. I notice in the papers that “infinite budget” does 
> not seem to apply to the US DOD these days. For commercial systems, nobody will significantly cut into profits to do something like this.
>
> Should they do this - sure. Will they do it - nope.
>
> Bob
>
>> On Jul 14, 2015, at 4:49 PM, paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Poul-Henning,
>> The reason to stay with the LORAN C style pulses is very very simple. 
>> It allows our time-nuts Austrons and SRS to work. Its the only way I 
>> get any of my tax dollars back. :-) The good news is no official 
>> government person reads time-nuts.
>> Regards
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp 
>> <phk at phk.freebsd.dk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> --------
>>> In message <55A4AC81.1030100 at rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus Danielson
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>> The safety is
>>>> relative, in that it takes quite a bit of more infrastructure 
>>>> compared to the jamming of GPS, and that lies in the wavelength of 
>>>> the signal than anything else.
>>> If the goal is a reliable backup for GPS, there are smarter ways to 
>>> use the 100kHz band than Loran-C pulses, and there really isn't much 
>>> reason to stay compatible with Loran-C receivers.
>>>
>>> --
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