[time-nuts] Square to sine wave symmetrical conversion
Bob Camp
kb8tq at n1k.org
Mon Jul 27 18:44:09 EDT 2015
Hi
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Charles Steinmetz <csteinmetz at yandex.com> wrote:
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> Bob wrote:
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>> In tis case the question is "do you *need* low harmonics in the oscillator
>> stage to get low phase noise?"
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> Note that there are actually two questions. One is WRT the phase noise of the oscillator itself, and the other WRT the phase noise of a system that integrates the oscillator. In particular, even harmonics in the oscillator proper generate additional phase noise in the system when the signal is AC-coupled and/or DC-restored, and when it is fed to a zero-cross detector or other circuit that is sensitive to the symmetry of the waveform.
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> NIST published a paper on this.[1] There is other research describing and quantifying the phenomenon, as well.
Ok, *but* that’s really an issue with a *destination* circuit rather than the *feed* circuit. What they are talking about are
zero cross errors rather than phase noise. Put another way:
Phase noise is L(f)
What they are talking about are time errors.
Bob
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> Best regards,
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> Charles
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> [1] "The Effect of Harmonic Distortion on Phase errors in Frequency Distribution and Synthesis," Walls and Ascarrunz <http://tf.nist.gov/timefreq/general/pdf/1437.pdf>
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