[time-nuts] Vintage Frequency Measurement

Brooke Clarke brooke at pacific.net
Mon Feb 13 14:56:56 EST 2017


Hi:

Here's a GR 358 wavemeter from the 1920s.  Someone noticed the GR logo after I made the web page that led to it's 
identification. Hence the generic page URL.
http://www.prc68.com/I/Wavemeter.html
Covers 14 to 220 Meters (21 to 1 MHz) in four bands selected by which inductor you connect to the variable capacitor.
Resonance indicated by pilot light bulb.  The peak indication depends on the system Q and so at higher frequencies is 
not very good.

The microwave cavity wavemeters attached to the message from Wes have a much narrower peak and so are more accurate.
Wes:  Is this the patent for the IMPATT diode power amplifier?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3931587

-- 
Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html

-------- Original Message --------
> I have a General Radio Type CAG-60098-A Precision Wave Meter made for Navy
> Department - Bureau of Ships according to the nameplate.  According to
> Wikipedia that would date it between 1940 (when bureau of ships was
> created) and 1966 (when abolished).  It has an inductor in sort of a
> "hockey puck" labeled 16-50 kc that plugs into a socket on the front panel.
> Inside is a very nicely made variable capacitor with a vernier drive.  It
> has been a while since I had it apart, but there is a diode in series with
> the meter and not much else as I recall.  The meter scale is 0-200
> (microamp?) and the capacitor scale is 0-75 with no other marking.  I have
> no manual, but I assume there were other inductors for different frequency
> ranges with a calibration chart to interpret the 0-75 reading.  It must
> have been made to test transmitters by tuning for peak reading on the meter
> and determining the frequency from the dial reading.
>
> a different Alan (KE7AXC)
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia at btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan yes that is 5e-6 about all an unstabilised (temp) AT could hold for
>> any period. I guess there were no WWV or MSF signals around then. When a
>> good source was available off-air it was possible to do better than that.
>> In service it was probably "dont waste time trying to better the minimum
>> requirement. The transmitter you are looking for wont be that accurate or
>> stable"
>>
>> In 1960s I saw several BC-221s in the racks at the Rugby LF and HF
>> stations acting as standby frequency sources (VFO) for rapidly running up a
>> transmitter on an unusual frequency (not a normal route) for which they did
>> not have a crystal available.
>>
>> Alan
>> G3NYK
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Rae" <danrae at verizon.net>
>> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <
>> time-nuts at febo.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 11:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Frequency Measurement
>>
>>
>> To put BC-221 things in perspective, the 1 Mc/s reference crystal was
>>> adjusted, according to the manual, to within 5 c/s...
>>>
>>> Things have come a ways since!
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
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