[time-nuts] Re: Backup DC power with current battery technology?

paul swed paulswedb at gmail.com
Mon May 27 15:38:20 UTC 2024


Good morning to the group. Since this thread started I have been reading
about the LiFePo4 batteries.
They really can be treated much more like a traditional 12V battery in some
respects. It seems they come with a battery management
system internally. Price is easily 3-4X typical batteries. Though honestly
PB batteries are all over the place in cost.
Very hard to compare.
There are youtube videos of LiFePo4 tear downs and those are really
interesting in the wide range of mechanical construction.
By looking at the specs you have no idea what you are buying. Well the same
goes for PB batteries....
John thanks for getting the mind working and relooking at the battery
technology.
Paul
WB8TSL

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 11:07 AM Germán Herrera via time-nuts <
time-nuts at lists.febo.com> wrote:

> Hi John
>
> Probably a little overkill, but I have good experience with the Mini-Box
> OpenUPS boards (the original, one not the OpenUPS2). It can be setup
> with multiple cell chemistries, does balancing, has wide input/output
> voltage, 6A (10A peak) output current, etc.. Only issue (beside cost) is
> that it's switching, so maybe the added noise makes this a no-go.
>
> BR, German
>
> On 2024-05-26 11:39, John Ackermann N8UR via time-nuts wrote:
> > I need to replace the batteries in my 28 VDC power distribution system
> > in the clock room.  It's currently two series 12V AGM batteries with an
> > IOTA Engineering float charger.
> >
> > This system has two purposes: (a) primary power for some OCXOs and
> > other gear; and (b) failover power for some AC/DC gear like HP
> > standards. Under normal conditions, power draw is 2 or 3 amps.  During
> > mains outage, it could reach 10 amps.  Now that I have a house
> > generator, long run-time isn't a big issue so 25 Ah or so of capacity
> > is plenty.
> >
> > I haven't explored LiFePo4 batteries until now, and I'm having trouble
> > finding a charger that can provide significant continuous load current
> > while maintaining a battery floated across the line.  Does anyone have
> > recommendations for something like this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
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