[time-nuts] PCB design questions thread II
SAIDJACK at aol.com
SAIDJACK at aol.com
Mon Jun 2 16:53:17 EDT 2008
Hi David,
for guaranteed product quality, including choice of material (FR4 choices,
Getec, etc), tight impedance control, cleanliness (to reduce loss tangent
especially for high-frequency performance), and documentation including
solder-samples and cross-sections etc, try:
_http://www.titanpcb.com/about_us/Titan_West.asp_
(http://www.titanpcb.com/about_us/Titan_West.asp)
Not the cheapest, but great for "professional" proto's when quality trumps
cost (above 1GHz, one source FR4 is totally different from another sources
FR4...)
expresspcb.com works well for low cost, quick-turn proto's.
bye,
Said
In a message dated 6/2/2008 11:42:01 Pacific Daylight Time,
mccorkle at ptialaska.net writes:
David and Patrick,
Check out the following two sites to get an idea of the
current costs to have a custom made board produced.
http://www.pcb123.com/
http://www.expresspcb.com/index.htm
Richard
> Hi David and list
>
> I am quite interested in this post too.
>
> I have wanted to fabricate my own PCBs for several years now but I have
> never made an attempt. I am set up here to do silk screening and I have
> ovens and a hot-air soldering iron. Has anyone else tried to fabricate
> their own boards or is the price of farming the work out just so low now?
>
> If anyone has farmed out work, could you please feedback as to the entry
> level costs and if possible, some suggested companies?
>
> P.S Many of the boards I want to fabricate are replacements for obsolete
> ones. Is there a way to split the layers of an old board apart to study
> them?
>
> Thanks-Patrick
>
> David C. Partridge wrote:
>> I've been working on the design for a frequency divider to complement the
>> Thunderbolt I recently bought from TVB (thank you Tom, it's working very
>> well as far as I can tell, though of course I've no other standard to
>> compare against).
>>
>> Thanks to lots of advice and guidance from Bruce Griffiths (many thanks
>> again Bruce), I've got the design near completion.
>>
>> I'm not aiming for NIST or equivalent perfection in terms on minimising
>> jitter and other noise, but would like to at least make a at least a
>> half-way decent job of this.
>>
>> I'm now thinking ahead to the PCB requirements,with the caveat that I've
>> only ever designed one PCB before and that was a single layer board done
>> using double sized mylar and sticky black tape (Yes, it was a good many
>> years ago).
>>
>> Now to questions:
>>
>> 1. Surface mount or through hole? I don't have a re-flow oven (or even a
>> hot air soldering system), so my inclination is to use through hole CMOS
>> (74HC163s with 74AC glue logic and flip-flops), with the surface mount
>> restricted to the clock shaper using a BAV99 and either an ADCMP600 or
>> MAX999 and surrounding components. Will using through hole cause me
grief?
>>
>> 2. How many layers? In an ideal world with money no object, if I
>> understand the current art correctly, I think I'd probably aim for a five
>> layer board with Vcc, Digital Ground and Power Ground being separate
>> internal planes, and trace routing on the top and bottom of the board with
>> as few vias between top and bottom as possible. Does that sound right?
>>
>> Do you think I can safely restrict myself to two layers, and if so does it
>> make most sense to make one side of the board digital ground, and route
>> everything else (Vcc, Power/Analogue Ground, and signals) on the other
side.
>> Or is there a better approach (always assuming that a two layer board is a
>> viable option).
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave Partridge
>>
>>
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