[time-nuts] Re: Has Line-Frequency Timekeeping Become Less Reliable in the U.S.?
Hal Murray
halmurray at sonic.net
Fri Jul 17 01:40:08 UTC 2026
Thomas D. Erb said:
> I recently came across information suggesting that the way the North
> American power grid handles accumulated time error may be changing, and I
> had not realized this was even being discussed.
Old news. That happened years ago.
I poked around a bit, but I haven't found a good description of when and
why timekeeping on the US power grid was turned off. It seems like the
sort of event that somebody would document with a good story.
Here is a 2017 paper that talks about it being in the works, so less than
10 years ago.
Time and frequency from electrical power lines
https://www.nist.gov/publications/time-and-frequency-electrical-power-lines
TEC is Time Error Correction. From the abstract:
The Blackout of 2003 spawned a new regulatory structure for the electric
power industry to improve reliability, and as an unanticipated side
effect, a decision process that would most likely eliminate TECs was set
in motion. The specific proposal is to retire regulatory standards
designated BAL-004 and WEQ-006. We review the relevant structure and
governing bodies of the U.S. power grids, and report on the current
procedural status of these standards. In addition, we review possible
scenarios for the future of the power system as an elapsed-time reference
absent TEC. For this, we include analysis of the electric power at USNO,
as measured over five years. The TECs appear in the data; an analysis with
the industry-supplied record of the TECs indicates that without them a
time deviation of about 7 1/2 minutes would have occurred on the Eastern
Interconnection (grid) between the daylight saving time switches of March
2016 and November 2016.
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> More specifically, are traditional synchronous clocks now likely to
> accumulate noticeable long-term error?
That depends on what you mean by "noticeable"?
I think it depends on how reliable your power is. If the power goes out
for a few minutes every month or two (and has to be reset by hand) then
you probably won't notice the clock drifting. If your power is stable for
a year, you are likely to notice occasionally.
Here are some graphs:
http://www.glypnod.com/TimeNuts/60Hz/TimeFromPowerLine.html
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